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 Dyno versus Road Power and Torque

Dyno versus Road Power and Torque (HP/NM)
Due to today's exploding fuel prices and focus on global warming, car manufactures  move into smaller and smaller displacement engines to reduce average fuel consumption. They add turbos in order not to lack car performance and gain back power and even better torque.
It's fine, but we don’t save much on fuel if we really use the power a lot. Anyway…

Historical cars have been tested on Dyno ‘in fourth gear’ to describe the engine performance in terms of power and torque. The majority focus on the maximum power and have a small attention to the torque curve.


For dynamic street use with interval acceleration (overtaking) in the different gears, the torque curve should be the key focus. What does the torque curve look like over the RPM/speed range in the different gears?

Dyno test works pretty consistent for natural aspirated (N.A.) and fuel injection engines. Dynos have different dynamic load, but that won’t make a big difference on an N.A. engine. Most tests are made in the 4. gear for a 5. gear car. This is fine for comparison of any improvements. 

The situation is much different for Turbo charged engines operating to high boost (MAP-Manifold Absolute Pressure).
Two things will affect the power and torque curve.

  1. At low to mid RPM the load of the engine will affect the power and torque figures

  2. Maximum power will be affected of the inlet temperature and therefore dependent on how much air is blown in front of the car during a test

Ref 1.
With more load on the wheels the engine will burn more fuel. Exhaust flow and heat drop will turn the turbine and the compressor side will produce more air and therefore the engine will produce more power.
Different Dyno dynamic load or gear will give different results.

Ref 2.
The power will decrease with higher inlet temperature (less oxygen into the engine). A car on the road will typically get better air cooling and therefore produce more power.

 

Turbo engine Power and Torque ‘Dyno versus Road’
The next picture shows Power and Torque curves for a small Turbo engine (GT 2056) measured on ‘Dyno 4. gear’ and derived from road data in 4. and 5. gear.
As you can see the torque band is much wider in the RPM range and the torque is higher in 4. and 5. gear on the road.

The Dyno shows a peak torque of 356 NM at 4000 RPM.

On the Road in 5. gear torque is 395NM at 3000 RPM and more than 350NM from 2700-5000 RPM. The peak power also goes up from 230HP (171.5kW) to 255 HP (190kW) probably due to better cooling on the road.
 

Performance ‘Dyno versus Road’
To evaluate the different power curves, I have done some interval speed calculation examples and compare with real road measurements.

Let's take accelerations from 80-120 km/h (50-75 mph)

In 4. gear the RPM range is 2800-4200 and in 5. gear 2296-3445 RPM.

TM MK1

80-120 km/h

Based on Dyno

Based on Road

Measured on Road

4. gear

3.56 sec.

3.23 sec.

3.12 sec.

5. gear

6.00 sec

4.60 sec.

4.70 sec.

The tables show that calculated acceleration from 80-120 km/h in both 4 and 5. gear based on the Dyno curve is far from the actual measured results.

The results for the real road acceleration tests are much closer to the simulated results based on the power/torque curves achieved on the road in the corresponding gear.

3. gear 80-120 km/h (50-75 mph) the acceleration measured was 2.36 sec. avg.


2011 after wider rear end and BGH Gearbox

0-62mph (0-100km/h) results typ.: 3.9 sec.
(grip and gear shift still a challenge)

 

Data Log Lab: www.dataloglab.com
 

Data Log Lab is a graphical analysis tool. It loads the data logs generated by various aftermarket car ECUs and enables rapid and meaningful analysis of the information that is hidden within them.  It offers far more functionality than the manufacturers’ original software and access to it in a far easier way.

 

Here are some graphical presentations of TEC log files using Data Log Lab.

 

1. Turbo Manifold MK1, Turbo GT2056, ECU TEC-3

2. Turbo Manifold MK2, Turbo GT2259, ECU TEC-GT

 

NOTE the earlier power take up in 5. gear compared to 3. gear


1) Turbo Manifold MK1 and GT2056
 

      lbft x1.37= NM

 

     HP/1.341= kW

 

 

Power and Torque 3. gear road run
Ref curve is 1.5 bar, top curve is 1.7 bar boost

'NO Water Injection' 246HP 274 lbft

Air Inlet temp, Air/Fuel (A/F), MAP, Power (HP), RPM, Torque (lbft), TPS
NOTICE: Torque follows MAP

1.7 bar 3. gear run on the main graph and 5. gear run on the bench mark curve to indicate the earlier power uptake in the higher gear (5.g). 248 HP 273 lbft.

It shows pretty much the same results as on my own generated curves (mid on this page)
 
'NO Water Injection'

2) Turbo Manifold MK2 and GT2259


276HP/278lbft
and
354HP/400lbft

1.7 and 2.2 bar
With water injection

3.and 4. gear. Note early power take up in the 4. gear

Morgan Turbo 45-120 km/h video (GT2056 TM Mk1):

                                               

 

 

 

          

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